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Discrepancy between different tools #45

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239 opened this issue Aug 17, 2023 · 3 comments
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Discrepancy between different tools #45

239 opened this issue Aug 17, 2023 · 3 comments

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239 commented Aug 17, 2023

While I was looking for a suitable tool for Linux, I made a small comparison with 4 flac/opus files. This resulted in some very different values, which I would like to share here. Could it be that I've overlooked something?

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239 commented Aug 17, 2023

FTVEP-flac Ex Falso foobar2000 loudgain metaflac r128gain rsgain
AG -5.71 dB -8.19 dB -8.19 dB -5.71 dB -8.20 dB -8.19 dB
AP 0.9923 0.992279 1.133981 0.99227905 1.00000000 0.992279
TG1 -4.67 dB -7.08 dB -7.08 dB -4.68 dB -7.10 dB -7.08 dB
TP1 0.9877 0.987732 0.989932 0.98773193 0.98922700 0.987732
TG2 -6.61 dB -9.29 dB -9.29 dB -6.61 dB -9.30 dB -9.29 dB
TP2 0.9883 0.988342 1.075565 0.98834229 1.00000000 0.988342
TG3 -5.46 dB -7.55 dB -7.55 dB -5.46 dB -7.50 dB -7.55 dB
TP3 0.9923 0.992279 1.133981 0.99227905 1.00000000 0.992279
TG4 -2.57 dB -8.82 dB -8.82 dB -2.57 dB -8.80 dB -8.82 dB
TP4 0.9844 0.984375 1.056995 0.98437500 1.00000000 0.984375

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239 commented Aug 17, 2023

FTVEP-opus Ex Falso foobar2000 loudgain opusenc r128gain rsgain
AG -5.62 dB -3375 -3375   -3379 -3375
TG1 -4.62 dB -3091 -3090 264 -3098 -3090
TG2 -6.48 dB -3658 -3658 -230 -3661 -3658
TG3 -5.39 dB -3212 -3212 64 -3200 -3212
TG4 -2.51 dB -3536 -3535 804 -3533 -3535

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desbma commented Aug 17, 2023

Yes this is expected.

r128gain has a bug because it systematically resamples audio to 48 KHz before analysis, which leads to small offset from the correct value, see also #44.

Ex falso and metaflac probably use the Replay Gain original algorithm which has a different weighting curve, that leads to the ~4 dB difference.

I don't have much time to fix and interest to maintain r128gain nowadays, when I first wrote it there was no alternative, now, as your comparison confirms, I can only recommend rsgain. loudgain's behavior to use true peak instead of sample peak is wrong in my opinion, because it breaks compatibility with previous Replay Gain implementations, and can lead to very important loudness difference if the playback software is set to avoid clipping.

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