Creating a matrix channel for tts community

[JRMeyer]

>>> erogol
[December 17, 2020, 1:55pm]

How do you feel about creating a matrix channel as an alternative
channel of communication for topics that require instant conversations?

I don't mean to leave discourse but to have somewhere which is more
practical for instant conversations regarding development topics,
collaborations.

And we can keep questions, general topics, and comments on discourse.

[This is an archived TTS discussion thread from discourse.mozilla.org/t/creating-a-matrix-channel-for-tts-community]

[JRMeyer]

>>> georroussos
[December 17, 2020, 3:12pm]

This is a great idea. A lot of us are constantly looking at something
and most times there's at least 2 people looking into the same thing, so
it would be great for these conversations.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> nmstoker
[December 17, 2020, 3:19pm]

Mixed feelings. I've got to be brief as am on a coffee break from work!

I can definitely see the advantages for certain discussions. I've
occasionally dropped in to the general Mozilla ML matrix channel but
mostly out of interest rather than for a problem to solve - it seems a
decent platform.

One aspect i find somewhat frustrating here and in GitHub Issues (and I
sense I'm not alone
is with people who put in zero effort around their question - I wonder
what the move to a Matrix channel would do with them?

Does it give them a mainline straight into our consciousness via
notifications (!) whereby those genuinely interested in the project get
directly bothered by people who don't make an effort or don't get how OS
software works (ie with demands etc) That's probably me exaggerating it
a little but they are quite annoying people!!

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[JRMeyer]

>>> nmstoker
[December 17, 2020, 3:22pm]

Also I don't want to sound uncharitable and I realise that it's
important to support those who don't know about the project if they
want to learn

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[JRMeyer]

>>> erogol
[December 17, 2020, 3:36pm]

I know and agree with what you say.

A couple of things to note.

I don't suggest Mozilla Matrix but https://app.element.io/ where you
can just enable notifications for certain users who are interesting for
you. It is also free (AFAIK) You can also move your conversation to a
private chat for particular topics. I am also open to alternatives.

I suggest this because I generally see people try to communicate
actively about different projects under irrelevant topics. This would
enable real contributors to communicate on what matters. Also it makes
easier for people working on similar things to find each other as
underlined.

In order to prevent noise, we can be explicit about the use of the chat,
being only for development and project-specific purposes.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> georroussos
[December 17, 2020, 3:57pm]

I think it is a great idea especially with the latest changes because it
would definitely promote an active maintaining (which otherwise may not
be there), since a lot of us think Mozilla TTS is now the most robust
implementation from many sides, so it makes sense to keep building on
this one whenever the state of the art changes. Since it is open source
it can still be maintained and improved upon even if officially TTS is
not the focus anymore. But most importantly, I think it is a good
approach, especially for things we may stumble upon while trying out
different stuff and discussions that may clarify something for someone.
Additionally, if someone else is actively working on the same thing as
another person, a small nugget of knowledge that one of these people
discovers may go a long way for the project in general; and these
discussions would promote this. I also agree with this being for people
that have already spent a lot of time on the project (at least
initially), because this way it just benefits everyone. Someone that has
spent 100 hours on it is in a much better position to recognise
shortcomings or promising approaches.

Generally I personally love the idea because as I am becoming more
comfortable with the engine I'd like to contribute more things than just
guidance for new people and these discussions would be a great place to
start.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> erogol
[December 21, 2020, 9:38am]

I think I'll enable the chat room on element and give access to anyone
who is listed as a contributor on github to keep the remaining
discussion out.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> TheDayAfter
[December 21, 2020, 10:02am]

That would be a good starting point but would exclude non developers /
non contributors to github like me. I am just testing, comparing and
trying to integrate a TTS backend as a best compromise between quality
and inference speed which could be valuable too.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> erogol
[December 21, 2020, 10:06am]

Let us experiment with the idea and see how it works then we can setup
another channel for the rest of the community. I am not even sure if
using Element is good enough. So it is more of an experimental phase.

To be clear, we don't have the intention to exclude anyone who is a part
of our community in one way or another. Just want to emphasize that it
is just an experiment.

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[JRMeyer]

>>> Mic92
[January 24, 2021, 11:46am]

I tried to join the room but it seems to no longer exists. Is this still
the right url?
https://app.element.io/#/room/!KTePhNahjgiVumkqca:matrix.org

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[JRMeyer]

>>> othiele
[January 24, 2021, 12:44pm]

I guess it is a public room. Have you tried to log in and then access
room: [ slash #text2speech:matrix].org ?

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[JRMeyer]

>>> nmstoker
[January 24, 2021, 9:05pm]

[ slash Mic92](
seems to work fine for me

Visiting it on my mobile opens up the client app Element and directs me
straight into the room (which I'd Joned previously)

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[JRMeyer]

>>> Mic92
[January 26, 2021, 12:13pm]

Thanks that worked for me.

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