Not being able to login on any device

[hnykda]

Hi,

this is probably connected to #292. I am currently not being able to connect through PC nor any mobile phone. It seems it is affecting my friend's account as well. I have noticed that encryptr has been moved to "legacy" part of the download section of SpiderOak site, but not letting users know before hand (at least on your page or directly in the app) or shutting the servers down when an export feature has not been implemented is crazy. Can you at least enable us to log in?

The PC app (2.0.0) on my Archlinux desktop shows just this:

and in the console I see:

[30106:0815/095318:ERROR:cert_verify_proc_nss.cc(880)] CERT_PKIXVerifyCert for encryptrservice.crypton.io failed err=-8181

and on my phone (also the very last version) just got stuck on login and nothing happens.

When trying to create a new account, I also get a connection refused error, which indicates a server problem, rather than client's.

[naguirre]

Hi,
Same problem here :(

[alvarl]

Looks like the certificate expired: NET::ERR_CERT_DATE_INVALID. So unlikely to be a shutdown, rather negligence.

[crisp2017]

same problem here... locked out of bank accounts, bitcoin accounts... stupid of us relying on a service that doesn't allow export or backup. Our firm is also relying heavily other spideroak products such as one and enterprise backup. Need a fix now...

[ezekiel-lemur]

I have the same issue on iOS and Linux, we need a fix !

[alvarl]

I've managed to work around it, here are the steps for MacOS / Chrome:

• Open https://encryptrservice.crypton.io/, click ADVANCED, and proceed to the page. This accepts the expired certificate.
• Open file:///Applications/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/index.html, which now manages to access the backend due to accepted certificate.
• Log in with your credentials and back up your passwords.

[crisp2017]

You are a genius sir.... thank you!!

[ezekiel-lemur]

alvarl than you very much, but does anyone know where that file would be on Linux? file:///Applications/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/index.html ? Thank you

[crisp2017]

ezekiel, if you can't find the file you can just find a mac in order to copy your passwords, by hand....

[mike12345567]

@ezekiel-lemur, I managed to get it to work on Linux, I cloned the repo and built the desktop versions, then used the "osx64" build.

I had to change the endpoint it was targeting to encryptrservice.crypton.io which can be found under desktopbuilds/osx64/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/js/Encryptr.js on line 45 (it is set to encryptrstaging.crypton.io).

Then you can follow alvarl instructions as before, this probably works for Windows as well.

Side note: if you do this you'll need to disable the user-select: none rule in the CSS for the body as the tap to copy events don't work correctly, this way you can select text to copy and paste passwords out.

[ezekiel-lemur]

I am going to borrow a mac asap

[ezekiel-lemur]

What password manager are ye going to migrate to?

[mike12345567]

I've already paid for and started using LastPass, so far its got a lot of nice features and its only like $24 a year (although I think you can just have a free account if you don't want premium features?).

[springjazzy]

I knew that day would come! Still...

[ezekiel-lemur]

@mike12345567 This will be my solution [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Ppk_squJW0](boring video) but hey, I will use Keepass + Nextcloud + Mini Keepass (iOS)

[hnykda]

I confirm @mike12345567 and @alvarl solutions for Linux and Mac. Here are zipped resources, which should IMHO work on any desktop. Can someone confirm please?

To get the files above I had to (on my Linux):

1. install npm (use your package manager)
2. git clone [email protected]:SpiderOak/Encryptr.git (or download the zip and extract it if you don't talk to git)
3. cd Encryptr
4. npm install
5. ln -s node_modules/grunt-cli/bin/grunt
6. replace line 35 in src/app.js with window.crypton.host = "encryptrservice.crypton.io";
7. ./build.sh desktop
8. enable https://encryptrservice.crypton.io/ certificate (advanced -> allow)
9. open file://desktopbuilds/Encryptr/osx64/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/index.html (yes, even on linux, use osx64 build)
10. use your credentials to login

In that zipped file, there are resources from desktopbuilds/Encryptr/osx64/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw

By the way, this version of app shows this when started (added 2 months ago):

There is an EXPORT feature already :-) .

[ezekiel-lemur]

@hnykda I got this error, am I using the correct repo?

➜` ~ git clone [email protected]:SpiderOak/Encryptr.git
Cloning into 'Encryptr'...
Warning: Permanently added the RSA host key for IP address '192.30.253.113' to the list of known hosts.
Permission denied (publickey).
fatal: Could not read from remote repository.
Please make sure you have the correct access rights
and the repository

[mike12345567]

@ezekiel-lemur you are trying to clone with SSH there, try using the HTTPS clone instead if you haven't set up SSH keys. git clone https://github.com/SpiderOak/Encryptr.git.

[hnykda]

Exactly. Or just download the zip and extract it (https://github.com/SpiderOak/Encryptr/archive/master.zip). For your purpose, it is enough.

[crisp2017]

I just downloaded Avast Password, its very sophisticated, also zero knowledge, its all offline but you can synch across devices, and its free.

[xgkphdx]

@mike12345567 @alvarl @hnykda Many thanks for the workaround, it works on Fedora.

[springjazzy]

Works on Windows! Many thanks!

[ezekiel-lemur]

@hnykda @crisp2017 @mike12345567 @alvarl thank you so much you saved my life guys !!! and SpiderOak I am really really disappointed, it is less bad for us as we know what github is but think of people who dont have all their passwords. just a tip before pulling a service off the shelf maybe inform your loyal users.

[dodys]

after a whole morning without access to Encryptr, it seems that now it is working fine. They reissued a new certificate
but really disappointing, migrating to other password manager now.

[jruffin]

@hnykda @crisp2017 @mike12345567 @alvarl Many thanks, the workaround went well on Windows and I could back up my passwords.

Encryptr might be working again but that was enough of a warning to me that relying on a purely cloud-based service, as convenient as it can be, is dangerous. I am moving to KeePassXC together with Dropbox storage.

[dodys]

If anyone is interested in knowing if Encryptr is still being developed, I got this reply from the support team.

I'm relieved to report that the problem with Encryptr has been resolved. You should be able to log in to your Encryptr account and use it normally now.

"We first became aware of this problem at 1240 UTC today, and had it corrected by 1430 UTC.

Looking to the future, our next release of Encryptr will add the ability to work offline, so server outages will not affect your ability to log in and access your passwords. It will also add the ability to export your data, should you wish to give another password manager a try. We've actually been working on these two features already. We have a release-it-when-it's-ready policy, so we don't have a release date for it, but it will be as soon as it's ready for general use.

Please accept our apologies for today's difficulty and do let us know if we may be of further assistance.

Thank you for your Patience!

The SpiderOak Team
"

[exterm]

Sorry, but for me, after 2 months of the android app being completely broken, this is it. I am moving on to lastpass and have lost a lot of trust in SpiderOak.

[ezekiel-lemur]

You should try KeePass it's very good and open source. You can back it up on Dropbox etc

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[ellul-ezra]

Bitwarden is also open source, multi-platform and features free cloud syncing, import/export etc

[ezekiel-lemur]

Bitwarden seems really cool... +1

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[kamal4o4]

It's completely working now. There servers are up. till dec-2017. working on ubuntu 16.04.
this reply i got from there customer support :

[hnykda]

Thanks for bitwarden recommendation. I have already migrated. It's quite easy:

1. Open the last version of Encryptr (build it yourself or use what I have posted previously)
2. Click on the "export" button in the top right corner, export it to CSV
3. Create bitwarden account
4. Change columns in Encryptr export from Label->Name, Username->username, Password->password,Notes->notes (+ add empty columns folder, favorite,totp)
5. use Tools -> Import -> choose Bitwarden format.

[petervnv]

Hi guys,

I followed the instructions and just did a fresh git clone and compiled Encryptr desktop for Mint.
Everything works as expected except that Encryptr now gives me a "wrong password" error when I try logging in even though I'm sure the password is correct (works fine on iOS).

Any idea where I should start looking? I still have my old Encryptr app on Mint.

Cheers,
Peter

[petervnv]

OK, I was able to change the host it pointed to and now I can login and see my passwords.
The problem is that although I now see my passwords the download/export (?) button is still greyed out and Encryptr keeps showing the "Fetching data" message so I can't actually export my passwords even though I can see them.

Console:
Encryptr
[8285:0827/171519:ERROR:browser_main_loop.cc(162)] Running without the SUID sandbox! See https://code.google.com/p/chromium/wiki/LinuxSUIDSandboxDevelopment for more information on developing with the sandbox on.
ATTENTION: default value of option force_s3tc_enable overridden by environment.
[8285:0827/171614:INFO:CONSOLE(10)] ""read"", source: file:///tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.NEajqr/js/backbone.crypton.js (10)
[8285:0827/171615:INFO:CONSOLE(10)] ""read"", source: file:///tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.NEajqr/js/backbone.crypton.js (10)
[8285:0827/171617:INFO:CONSOLE(10)] ""read"", source: file:///tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.NEajqr/js/backbone.crypton.js (10)

This last message keeps repeating and probably is the cause of the never ending "Fetching data" message.

Any hints?

Cheers,
Peter

[petervnv]

Nevermind, it just took a long time to synch and now I can export my passwords!

Thanks!

[petervnv]

@ellul-ezra
Thanks for pointing out Bitwarden. It seems to tick all the right boxes except it seems to be too dependent on Microsoft (it uses SQL server instead of MySQL, etc).

Maybe just my old school prejudice, but I have trouble wrapping my head around using any microsoft code for these types of privacy and security apps.

I wonder how easy it would be to replace the MS specific components by more traditional linux ones like Postgresql or MySQL.

[ellul-ezra]

Yes and apparently it uses Azure cloud for hosting :/

[ggillies]

@petervnv how did you work around the issue with it giving you wrong password when using a version compiled from git? You mention you had to change the host? What did you change it to?

[petervnv]

@ggillies

Check out the post above by @mike12345567 , specifically:

Just change the host as described by him.

Cheers

I had to change the endpoint it was targeting to encryptrservice.crypton.io which can be found under desktopbuilds/osx64/Encryptr.app/Contents/Resources/app.nw/js/Encryptr.js on line 45 (it is set to encryptrstaging.crypton.io).