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Q: What are important details to know in regards to borrowing against a 401K?

ChatGPT:

Borrowing against a 401(k) can provide a source of funds when you're in need, but there are important considerations and potential drawbacks. Here are some key details to understand:

  • Loan Limits: Typically, you can borrow up to 50% of your vested account balance or $50,000, whichever is less. However, if your balance is under $10,000, you may be able to borrow up to the full amount.

  • Interest: While you're paying interest back into your account, thus essentially "paying yourself", the rate may be lower than market returns. Plus, you're paying with after-tax dollars.

  • Repayment Term: Typically, the repayment term is up to 5 years, but if you're using the money to buy a primary residence, the term might be longer.

  • Double Taxation on Interest: The interest you pay back to your 401(k) is with after-tax dollars, and then you'll pay taxes on withdrawals in retirement, leading to double taxation on that portion.

  • Job Loss Risks: If you leave your job or are terminated, the loan amount may become due much sooner, often within 60 to 90 days. If you can't repay it in that timeframe, the loan could be treated as a distribution, triggering taxes and penalties.

  • Opportunity Cost: The money you borrow won't be invested, potentially missing out on market gains. Over time, this can significantly impact the growth of your retirement savings.

  • Fees: Some plans may have loan origination, maintenance, or administration fees.

  • Penalties: If you default on the loan or don't repay it according to the terms, it's considered a distribution. You'll likely owe taxes on it and, if you're under 59½, you may also owe a 10% early withdrawal penalty.

  • Loan Defaults: Defaults can be harmful to your long-term retirement planning, leaving you with less money in retirement and potentially incurring heavy tax consequences.

  • Mental Approach: Once you've borrowed once, it might be easier to justify doing it again, endangering your retirement savings further.

Before borrowing from your 401(k), consider all the implications and explore other financial options. It's often recommended to treat a 401(k) loan as a last resort due to the potential risks and long-term impact on retirement savings. If you're contemplating such a move, it might be beneficial to consult with a financial advisor.

Q: What are some typical loan-, origination-, and maintenance fees- for the loan in your example?

ChatGPT:

When considering borrowing from a 401(k), the exact fees can vary depending on the plan provider and the specifics of the 401(k) plan itself. However, here are some general fee ranges and considerations based on common practices up to my last update in 2021:

  • Loan Origination Fee: This fee is charged to process the loan. It might range from $50 to $100, though some plans may charge a percentage of the loan amount, typically less than 1%.

  • Maintenance/Administration Fee: This is an ongoing fee to manage the loan once it's been established. It could be a flat fee, often between $25 to $75 annually, or it might be a small percentage of the outstanding loan balance.

  • Loan Application Fee: Some plans may charge an upfront fee just for applying, even if you're not approved. This fee can range from $25 to $50.

  • Late Payment Fee: If you miss a payment or are late, there might be a fee associated with that, which can vary but could be $25 or more per occurrence.

It's important to note a couple of things:

  • Cumulative Impact: While these fees might seem small on an individual basis, over the life of the loan, they can add up. Additionally, when you consider the opportunity cost of not having that money invested, the real cost can be much higher.

  • Variability: The exact fee amounts can vary widely between different 401(k) providers and plan structures. Always check the specific details of your plan's documentation or talk to your HR department or plan administrator to get exact figures.

Lastly, while the fees are a consideration, the biggest cost of borrowing from your 401(k) often comes from the potential lost investment growth and the risks associated with not being able to repay the loan, leading to tax implications and penalties.